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I am going to see Hamilton in a month. [personal profile] po8crg bought tickets for his birthday and I'm one of the people he's taking with him. Which is so nice and like everyone we had tickets forever so have had lots of time to get excited.

And I was excited, until people started going. One of the first, a wheelchair user I followed on Twitter, gave a rather disappointing access report of the venue. Other friends started going and talked about how much it adds to see the performance we've been listening to for years: there's a whole character who doesn't speak so we didn't know he was there, apparently? And lots of clever stuff with what's happening physically and how that interacts with the lyrics/story/etc.

At some point, [personal profile] po8crg and Andrew and I got talking about audio description. Richard said he'd checked and there isn't any. I know on Broadway Hamilton got audio description because of a lawsuit. On a second's reflection, it makes sense that they couldn't use the same audio for a whole nother production in London, but I guess it hadn't occurred to me. Richard's investigations indicated that the London production wasn't likely to have AD for a year or so, long after we were going to see it.

It's made me really sad now when I read friends talk about how much the visual experience added for them, because I know that isn't going to happen for me.

And for a few weeks now, since the last time someone mentioned something like this [note, friends: this is not something you should feel bad about mentioning! it's good and true and I'm so happy that you're all having such fun at Hamilton], I've been increasingly upset about going myself. I told Andrew a little while ago that I didn't want to go any more. Because, if I just don't go, I'm having the same experience as everyone else who hasn't seen it; I'm listening to the same music. If I do go (when I do go), I'm getting less. It's not the experience my friends are getting, and everyone else is getting, and I was really upset about that for a while.

Andrew said I'll be fine when I get there, and I've nodded along because that's what I've told him about loads of things and that's probably what I'd tell me if I weren't me. I've been trying to shake this feeling off, to blame it on deferred stress or misery from university. That is certainly going to be part of it. And yet, it's still intruding, unbidden, on my thoughts almost every day.

I hate it because it's making it harder for me to be happy for my friends (I have like one or two a week mentioning on social media that they're going, it seems), because I have to brace myself for the possibility that they might (totally innocently!) say something that reminds me of this and makes me sad. I want to be better at being happy for my friends and I certainly want to be happy for me, or at least stop dreading something I am supposed to be looking forward to.

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Date: 2018-03-05 12:37 pm (UTC)
davidgillon: A pair of crutches, hanging from coat hooks, reflected in a mirror (Default)
From: [personal profile] davidgillon
I just googled, and this link https://hamiltonmusical.com/london-faq/ suggests there are a whole two audio-described performances planned, but not until November - which is pretty pathetic!

*hug*

Date: 2018-03-05 01:04 pm (UTC)
po8crg: A cartoon of me, wearing a panama hat (Default)
From: [personal profile] po8crg
This makes me sad too.

Please look forward to going to Brussels, though. If that ends up being compensation for Hamilton rather than a joyous add-on, then it'll still be completely worth it.

Re: *hug*

Date: 2018-03-05 02:08 pm (UTC)
po8crg: A cartoon of me, wearing a panama hat (Default)
From: [personal profile] po8crg
I'm still going to enjoy it!

I just had a look at tickets for the two AD performances in November but they're already £150 each so that's not happening.

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Date: 2018-03-05 01:34 pm (UTC)
alithea: Painting of the black haired white woman with her head on her hands looking thoughtful (Arty thoughtful)
From: [personal profile] alithea
*hugs*

I'm sure your friends all understand. But i hope it gets easier and you manage to look forward to the trip after all, even though it won't be perfect.

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Date: 2018-03-05 10:15 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] anankastick
I'm sorry to hear that! This is a different situation, but I feel that way when friends want to go to events that are noisy/crowded/unfamiliar. They are so excited and urging me to come along, but I can't understand anything anyone is saying in those environments (sensory processing disorder) so it's not like I get to participate in the socializing parts, and the crush of humanity (lol) almost always pushes me to the point of shutdown or panic attack so I end up having to leave early, embarrassed and exhausted. I always appreciate it when friends accept that there are things they love that I can't tolerate (or can't access or just don't like) and don't try to drag me along when I say no. I wish more people would think, "What can we do so our friends/family can enjoy this, too," instead of "It's such a shame so-and-so can't be here! They'd love this!" which puts all the burden of creating accessibility on disabled people.

Anyway, I hope that you're able to experience Hamilton at some point, since everyone says it's brilliant, but I also hope that you are able to release some of the sad feelings about it. (By which I mean not feel bad about feeling bad that something is inaccessible to you and talking about it--that's a valid and understandable response, and it's important to be able to express it!)

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Date: 2018-03-05 11:16 pm (UTC)
jesse_the_k: Slings & Arrows' Anna says: "I'll smack you so hard your cousin will fall down!" (Anna smacks hard)
From: [personal profile] jesse_the_k
What a bummer!

And you are so completely right to not go! Without AD it would be ... simply infuriating the whole time.

I have to push back on you being "a bit mental." If I had to attend a Hamilton performance without a sound system I'd be furious.

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Date: 2018-03-07 01:22 am (UTC)
jesse_the_k: The smoking pipe from Magritte's "Treachery of Images" itself captioned in French script "this is not a pipe" captioned "not an icon" (Default)
From: [personal profile] jesse_the_k

Ah. Sorry to be so pushy, and I hope you can find delightful ancillary stuff on your trip.

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Date: 2018-03-06 01:18 am (UTC)
worlds_of_smoke: A picture of a brilliantly colored waterfall cascading into a river (Default)
From: [personal profile] worlds_of_smoke
I'm sorry that you aren't going to be able to have the full experience. Being unable to experience things in the same way because of accessibility reasons is so, so upsetting and frustrating. :(

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Date: 2018-03-06 09:29 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] barakta
Brain has not instantiated the words module yet so consider this a placeholder for knowing where you're coming from and hoping your brain works out a way not to be too sad.

You are lovely and kind. Sometimes disablement totally sucks.

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Date: 2018-03-06 12:21 pm (UTC)
miss_s_b: River Song and The Eleventh Doctor have each other's back (Default)
From: [personal profile] miss_s_b
*hug*

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