Bi snark

Feb. 27th, 2018 02:31 pm
[personal profile] cosmolinguist
tfw you see someone say "gay or bisexual men and lesbians"...

Bi activists are not kidding when we say what bi representation there is, is often in this find-and-replace style. Usually what I'm used to seeing in these cases is what I think of as the Stonewall style because I first/most often saw it from them: "gay and bisexual men, and lesbian and bisexual women." This was in the days when they (as it's Stonewall England I mean here) weren't doing the T yet at all, and they seemed to think that this was sufficient inclusion.

Never mind that I seem to have a lot more in common with bisexuals of any gender than I do with cis lesbians. Never mind how many bisexuals that excludes because they're not men or women...

But this is even more special: this has thought to include the bi men but apparently I don't exist. Of course this goes against stereotype, which says "all women are bi and no men are bisexual," but maybe the fact that it was written by a gay man explains the increased detail allotted to men? They are, after all, the important gender.

And of course this "gay or bisexual men and lesbians" is part of the description of a link whose title starts "My best LGBT+ [things]..." Gotta have that plus these days, so important you know.

Sometimes it seems like we can keep changing the label but the contents inside are still always G.

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Date: 2018-02-27 02:53 pm (UTC)
sfred: Fred wearing a hat in front of a trans flag (Default)
From: [personal profile] sfred
Huh.

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Date: 2018-02-27 02:59 pm (UTC)
alithea: Artwork of Francine from Strangers in Paradise, top half only with hair and scarf blowing in the wind (Default)
From: [personal profile] alithea
That is indeed a new one on me, usually as you say, it's bi *men* that don't exist. How lazy.

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Date: 2018-02-27 06:15 pm (UTC)
kshandra: Jack Harkness aims his pistol at something off-camera. Text: "TASTE MY BISEXUAL FURY" (Bisexual Fury)
From: [personal profile] kshandra
Beautifully written. Would you mind if I borrowed this for my next fundraiser update?

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Date: 2018-02-27 07:15 pm (UTC)
syntaxofthings: Death Fae from the Fey Tarot (Default)
From: [personal profile] syntaxofthings
I really like "queer" as a label because to my community it's very "everything but G". Meh, people. (Wouldn't "gay men, lesbians, and bisexual people" be the easiest way to write that sentence?? Not to mention most inclusive?)

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Date: 2018-02-27 09:04 pm (UTC)
diffrentcolours: (Default)
From: [personal profile] diffrentcolours
I saw this, headdesked, and was not at all surprised by the source.

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Date: 2018-02-28 01:59 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] anankastick
Yep, the contents are always very G and the T is often a grudging afterthought or, worse, purposefully ignored or excluded. Never mind the fact that plenty of trans people are gay/bi/queer/ace/pan/etc ad infinitum.

Bi erasure and anti-trans hostility are probably the two biggest reasons why I don't use The Acronym anymore and get kind of suspicious around people who do and who write that + sign. Ugh.

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Date: 2018-02-28 02:43 pm (UTC)
silveradept: A kodama with a trombone. The trombone is playing music, even though it is held in a rest position (Default)
From: [personal profile] silveradept
How difficult. One would always hope that a person would, having gone through the struggle themselves, be more willing to make it so others don't have to do the same.

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