"You're really getting into this Blur album aren't you?"
"What?" was all I could say. "It's just on repeat; I haven't bothered to find anything else yet."
"No, you're typing in rhythm with the music," Andrew said.
"What!" I said again. "I am not!"
He started laughing,"Yes you are."
"I don't think so."
He continued laughing at me until the song was over. I still think he's crazy. At best, I'm willing to allow the possibility of a coincidence, as both my typing and that song are fast and loud.
It is also a coincidence that he's right: I am getting into this Blur album (Parklife).
Andrew and I don't watch TV except at his parents', so a week ago when we were there we ended up watching a show about potential inductees to the UK Music Hall of Fame with his mom. When they got to Blur I said, "I know one of their songs ... I think."
"Yeah, that'll be 'Song 2'," he said. "That was their attempt to sound American."
That would explain why I had only the vaguest idea of who they were and didn't remember the song specifically. I did recognise it when they played a clip on TV; it sounded just like lots of other things I heard on the radio at that time.
But until then, Blur had been an interesting British band. Andrew compared them to the early Kinks stuff and, hearing just bits of their songs, I could see what he meant. A hint of the Beatles in there, too. Blur did all kinds of cool songs.
Everyone in Britain knew this, and no one told me!
At the same time they were asking each other "Oasis or Blur?"—the sort of inkblot question that "Beatles or the Stones?" may have been to an earlier generation—I was stuck with hearing Mariah Carey, the Smashing Pumpkins*, Dr. Dre, TLC, the Gin Blossoms, Jewel, and boring things like that on the radio. No wonder I hid myself in '60s pop; at least that was good pop. Oh, we knew all about Oasis, and I did buy and enjoy What's the Story Morning Glory, but I was totally ignorant to the rest of what was going on.
It wasn't just Blur and Oasis, anyway. When the mention of that question came up on the TV show, Andrew's mom said, "Pulp! That's how I always answered 'Blur or Oasis': Pulp!" And indeed Pulp managed to be very good but almost totally unknown in the states. I first heard them when Andrew played one of their records for me when I got here. If anybody in the US has heard about Pulp now, it's probably because of William Shatner's cover of "Common People." This is only one of the reasons I find that song an abomination.
setharoo recently made the mistake of mentioning that he liked that song, and that he hadn't heard the original, thus subjecting himself to a half-coherent, half-informed rant about Pulp and Britpop from me.
Yes, I'm excited about this. Yes, I know that's lame.
I'm annoyed as well, though. Not that there's good music I didn't know about; I've been realising that my whole life, and it delights rather than bothers me. Not even that there was such good music being made when I was stuck listening to bad stuff on the radio. What really annoys me is that this good Britpop music is exactly the sort of thing I would've loved most when I was that age. Andrew said that these bands made it less dorky to like the Kinks and the Beatles again, and that would've been perfect for me. Just being able to play music like the Blur album I've been listening to this afternoon would've made my junior high existence a bit less grotesque.
All kinds of good things are hiding where I don't know about them, and sometimes I think my whole life is spent chasing them around and trying to find out about everything.
* I know people who still like the Smashing Pumpkins, and while I've tried to understand this, I cannot. I like Billy Corgan's voice, and I remember reading at least one interview with him that made him seem like a decent enough guy, but I just do not get anything out of their music.
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gfonk doesn't understand America.)
"What?" was all I could say. "It's just on repeat; I haven't bothered to find anything else yet."
"No, you're typing in rhythm with the music," Andrew said.
"What!" I said again. "I am not!"
He started laughing,"Yes you are."
"I don't think so."
He continued laughing at me until the song was over. I still think he's crazy. At best, I'm willing to allow the possibility of a coincidence, as both my typing and that song are fast and loud.
It is also a coincidence that he's right: I am getting into this Blur album (Parklife).
Andrew and I don't watch TV except at his parents', so a week ago when we were there we ended up watching a show about potential inductees to the UK Music Hall of Fame with his mom. When they got to Blur I said, "I know one of their songs ... I think."
"Yeah, that'll be 'Song 2'," he said. "That was their attempt to sound American."
That would explain why I had only the vaguest idea of who they were and didn't remember the song specifically. I did recognise it when they played a clip on TV; it sounded just like lots of other things I heard on the radio at that time.
But until then, Blur had been an interesting British band. Andrew compared them to the early Kinks stuff and, hearing just bits of their songs, I could see what he meant. A hint of the Beatles in there, too. Blur did all kinds of cool songs.
Everyone in Britain knew this, and no one told me!
At the same time they were asking each other "Oasis or Blur?"—the sort of inkblot question that "Beatles or the Stones?" may have been to an earlier generation—I was stuck with hearing Mariah Carey, the Smashing Pumpkins*, Dr. Dre, TLC, the Gin Blossoms, Jewel, and boring things like that on the radio. No wonder I hid myself in '60s pop; at least that was good pop. Oh, we knew all about Oasis, and I did buy and enjoy What's the Story Morning Glory, but I was totally ignorant to the rest of what was going on.
It wasn't just Blur and Oasis, anyway. When the mention of that question came up on the TV show, Andrew's mom said, "Pulp! That's how I always answered 'Blur or Oasis': Pulp!" And indeed Pulp managed to be very good but almost totally unknown in the states. I first heard them when Andrew played one of their records for me when I got here. If anybody in the US has heard about Pulp now, it's probably because of William Shatner's cover of "Common People." This is only one of the reasons I find that song an abomination.
Yes, I'm excited about this. Yes, I know that's lame.
I'm annoyed as well, though. Not that there's good music I didn't know about; I've been realising that my whole life, and it delights rather than bothers me. Not even that there was such good music being made when I was stuck listening to bad stuff on the radio. What really annoys me is that this good Britpop music is exactly the sort of thing I would've loved most when I was that age. Andrew said that these bands made it less dorky to like the Kinks and the Beatles again, and that would've been perfect for me. Just being able to play music like the Blur album I've been listening to this afternoon would've made my junior high existence a bit less grotesque.
All kinds of good things are hiding where I don't know about them, and sometimes I think my whole life is spent chasing them around and trying to find out about everything.
* I know people who still like the Smashing Pumpkins, and while I've tried to understand this, I cannot. I like Billy Corgan's voice, and I remember reading at least one interview with him that made him seem like a decent enough guy, but I just do not get anything out of their music.
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Date: 2004-10-17 02:09 pm (UTC)Patently untrue! I've been a creepily-obsessive Pulp fan ever since I saw "This Is Hardcore" at three in the morning on MTV back when they still played music videos.
Also, I like the William Shatner/Joe Jackson version or "Common People." :D
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Date: 2004-10-17 02:16 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2004-10-17 03:52 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2004-10-17 04:03 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2004-10-17 04:30 pm (UTC)But I think when people here think of Blur that 'Boys and Girls (someone you really love)' song is the one that they all think of first. I know I do.
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Date: 2004-10-18 05:57 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2004-10-18 06:44 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2004-10-18 09:48 am (UTC)as for pulp - well i think the shatner thing is a wonderful, WONDERFUL thing for a start, but i think they were everso slightly a big thing for a bit around the time of "different class", but then jarvis showed how obstinate a cove he was and scared most people off with "this is hardcore" so barely anyone in britain had heard of them after that...
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Date: 2004-10-18 09:55 am (UTC)Andrew actually tells me he doesn't like Parklife much and thinks The Great Escape is good. But he also told me that he's the only person who thinks that; your opinion is apparently the widely-held one.
Many people I know love the Shatner thing. I've had to forbid Andrew from playing it too much, because it drives me crazy, and while I don't understand what's so likable about it, I do know many people who like it.
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Date: 2004-10-18 10:12 am (UTC)now, the shatner thing. well for a start he's actually understood the lyrics and just not gone "hello i'm being overwrought". secondly it's a *great* arrangement and thirdly it's got ruddy joe jackson singing the chorus. i think it's absolutely majestic and has made me reconsider shatner as not just a mad old ham but a mad old ham who knows ENTIRELY what he's doing. one of my friends described him as a "magnificent bastard" and i can see why - plus the cameo in "third rock from the sun" where he played the big giant head which i saw lately was just amazing...
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Date: 2004-10-18 10:19 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2004-10-18 10:45 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2004-10-18 10:23 am (UTC)And you are right about Shatner.
And Pulp were more than quite big in late 95/early 96 - I know you weren't really following the charts all that much around then, but they were festival headliners and playing stadia for a year or so then, and to be honest that was the best place for them - Cocker is best when playing to a large audience, like Michael Stipe or David Byrne. But yeah, when only three people bought This Is Hardcore that pretty much ended their pop stardom...
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Date: 2004-10-18 10:37 am (UTC)i know pulp were huge here around the 95/ 96 period because i was by then following the charts, but i was meaning i wasn't cure how well they did in america. i think "this is hardcore" - which MOJO wonderfully reminded me i was thinking of when listening to the new wreckless eric material - is a wonderful thing, as i do "we love life" - not sure about "his and hers" though. never did like that much...
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Date: 2004-10-18 10:54 am (UTC)The only Pulp stuff I know is what Andrew played at me: Different Class. And I don't even know that very well (plus, as Andrew points out, it's a more British thing and someone like me probably can't really get it anyway). Like I said, all this Britpop didn't show up on my radar at all, and I'm just finding out about it now.
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Date: 2004-10-18 11:12 am (UTC)other britpop: much maligned, but loved by me is the boo radleys' deeply misunderstood "wake up!", the fantastic "i should coco" by supergrass which is worth it for "sofa (of my lethargy)" alone and personally "lux" by thurman. though also for post britpop i'd keep my eye out for the superb pop psych and free pop up board game that was octopus' "from a to b"
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Date: 2004-10-18 11:49 am (UTC)I've heard of the Boo Radleys, and Supergrass (I think). The other cool thing about people who know what they're talking about is that when I say "hey, where'd this Blur thing come from?" they can say "if you like that, you might like this half-dozen other things ..." :-D
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Date: 2004-10-18 11:53 am (UTC)the boo radleys, bless 'em, are one of my favourite bands ever but are worth being a bit cautious around because they are frequently misunderstood. "wake up!" came with a big fat annoying pop record that annoyed the hell out of everyone on the radio for ages, but is in fact a lovely raggedy pop/ psych/ shcizophrenic album of wonderfulness. they returned to similar territory one more time with their final album but the rest of their stuff is either all droney shoegazey stuff (so wonderful then!) or noisy angry stuff (so again - wonderful!). supergrass are great fun, and their debut album probably the most genuinely carefree of the period
i also forgot super furry animal's absolutely masterful "radiator" - d'oh!
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Date: 2004-10-18 10:54 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2004-10-18 10:58 am (UTC)actually "do you remember the first time" is my favourite song on that album, though mainly because it reminds me of the great little documentary they did with viv stanshall and john peel and the like talking about when they lost their virginity