the cosmolinguist ([personal profile] cosmolinguist) wrote2021-05-19 08:04 am
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[139/365] agender day

Happy Agender Pride Day!

I totally forgot about this until Facebook reminded me, but last year I wrote an agender FAQ for LGBT+ Lib Dems. Here it is:


May 19th is commemorated as Agender Pride Day. I'm agender, and I'm used to that not being a terribly well-understood word, so today I'd like to answer some questions people might have for agender people.

What does agender mean?


Agender means "without gender." Agender people don't align with any gender identity. We may particularly feel a distinct lack of gender or we may feel distant from the concept of gender altogether.

Is agender the same as asexual?

No. Asexual is a sexuality, it's about how people relate to each other. Agender is a gender identity, it's about a person's internal feeling of themselves. It's not any more the same than being heterosexual is the same as being a man. A person may be both agender and asexual, and they're both part of the LGBT+ community that we as Lib Dems want to support and celebrate, but they're not the same thing.

So are you saying gender doesn't exist or something?

Definitely not. Like any other gender identity, it isn't universal. There are plenty of things I don't have, like a car, or a sister, but a lot of people do have them! Gender plays a pervasive role in society; we agender people know that as well as anyone.

How did you discover agender, and then how do you decide it applies to you?

In my experience, it can be tricky to discover! I've known and learned about binary trans people for more than twenty years now, and I've known and learned about non-binary people for more than ten, but I didn't encounter anyone agender, or the idea that anyone could be agender, until a few years ago.

This is one reason I'm really glad Agender Pride Day exists; I want to help everyone understand agender people but I also want people who might be drawn to this label to find out about it and not feel adrift in other gender identities like I did before.

I decided it applied to me after some good conversations with friends who helped me compare my experience of gender to theirs. I was surprised when they said they really do have consistent internal feelings of maleness, or femaleness, or having a gender that is neither of those but still definitely exists. I've never had that feeling at all.

What are the things to look for so you don't misgender someone?

It's unlikely that anyone is ever going to look at me and think "there's a person with no gender!" We reflexively gender strangers immediately, and we call them "mate" or "sweetheart," "that guy" or "that lady," and so on. One thing we can all do is try to re-train our habits of thinking, so that we don't assume people's genders like this. This would help a lot of people - and doesn't hurt anybody, since we can always say "this person" instead and it's still perfectly correct - and one of the groups it helps is agender people.

What are the best (and worst) ways to react to someone coming out as agender?

As with any gender coming-out, the best reactions are respectful and supportive. Coming out is usually a gesture of good faith, and should be treated as such. If you're not familiar with agender as a concept, your first instinct might be to say "I haven't heard of that, you must have made it up" or "don't be silly, everyone has to have a gender." If you don't understand it, you can always ask if the person has resources to recommend rather than peppering them with questions. If you're expected to use a new name or set of pronouns for someone, please do so. And if you find it difficult to get it right, try practicing when the person isn't around; speaking or writing about them often helps and the person doesn't have to be present for your flubs.

Agender people will make different requests of you regarding their pronouns, names or titles. It's always best to ask, not assume. There are no agender-specific pronouns (that I know of!), and agender people can have any pronouns ("he," "she," "they," or many others) or even, like me, might welcome all pronouns. I really don't feel more attached to one set of pronouns over the others, I like Mx as a title, and I haven't changed my given name but I've added a new middle name. The next agender person you meet might be completely different in all of these aspects.

What legal recognition would agender people benefit from?

One thing agender people share with non-binary people is a lack of legal recognition in the UK and most other countries. I'm frustrated when gender is both mandatory on important documents like passports and yet offers us only Male and Female as options.
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[personal profile] otter 2021-05-19 02:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you for sharing this.
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[personal profile] worlds_of_smoke 2021-05-19 04:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Edited 2021-05-19 16:49 (UTC)
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[personal profile] jesse_the_k 2021-05-19 05:05 pm (UTC)(link)

This, and you, are brilliant!

There are plenty of things I don't have, like a car, or a sister, but a lot of people do have them! creates an entirely new spot in my brain!

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[personal profile] silveradept 2021-05-19 06:14 pm (UTC)(link)
A happy Agender Pride Day to you. The bullet points are quite nice to have for people.
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[personal profile] sfred 2021-05-19 09:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Happy Pride day!
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[personal profile] tarasacon 2021-05-22 04:17 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you for the 101!

If you have any resources that talk about people’s different takes on non-binary, genderqueer, agender, and any other related concepts, I would really appreciate them.

I started using using genderqueer for myself a few years ago, after a lifetime of feeling like I didn’t fit into the M/F binary, whether cis or trans. (I always felt like there was Male, Female, and Tarasacon. Life would have been different if I’d had a clue that there were options beyond the binary.

It took me a while to adopt it because 1) it was a new concept for me, but 2) also because my research didn’t find clear discussions for the differences between gender fluid, non-binary, and genderqueer, and almost zero discussion about agender identity. Since I already thought of myself as queer, eventually I decided to adopt the one that incorporates that, and change it later if a different identity felt more relevant. But I still have imposter syndrome because I don’t feel like I have a grasp of the options.